As a leftist I am sick and tired of censorship to a point that it infuriates me. I have had so many accounts on the internet banned on just about every site that it has completely handicapped my ability to use the internet as a source of great joy of having the freedom to express myself how I want to. I know I am not the only one who is furious about this and there are many more people who feel the same way. Right wingers are expected to be fascist and oppressive and the left is supposed to be the side who is against that and yet they left is just as bad at censoring as the right is and I don’t understand how more people don’t recognize how bad and illogical it is. We basically have 2 sides that love to censor.
Even “X” is supposed to be against censorship and yet still practices mass censorship and I have had multiple accounts shadow banned or fully banned from there.
Why can’t there be a site like Youtube or Reddit where everything that is deemed against whatever rules they have is simply just given a disclaimer that the user who wants to view it just has to agree to it that they still want to view it? It is ridiculous that anybody likes anything that is “hardcore” or “edgy” or “outside of the box” including with their music tastes or comedy tastes or political opinions or whatever else it is they have basically nowhere to go in mainstream society and censorship has basically been accepted on both sides of the political spectrum.
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Corporations are worried about lawsuits
Corporations don’t want to allow too much free speech because they need to keep people all in a certain box of a type of person and make people used to a “behave good, and we will reward you” relationship with them.
4chan doesn’t worry about lawsuits but the problem is that 4chan is not mainstream even though it should be because too many people have been brainwashed into thinking censorship is good and places like 4chan are scary and taboo when really it should be an opposite sentiment
4Chan is nothing but 12 year old edgelords who just discovered racial slurs
No it isn’t…lots of people of all ages use that site…it seems like your are just on a mission to make excuses for massive censorship…or you are just retarded
Lol
Maybe you’ve just described OP and figured out why he keeps being banned everywhere…
“I LOVE CENSORSHIP. HOW DARE YOU PROMOTE FREE SPEECH”
HAHAHAHAH WHAT A FASCIST LOSER!!
Definitely not beating the ‘12 years old edgelord’ allegations with that comment 😂
you sound angry
you sound like a fascist rightist
Its all becoming clear now. You need to chill out. If you’re getting banned from everywhere you go then maybe you’re the problem.
yes i am the problem for talking like a normal human being and not like some fascist retard…surrrreee
No you’re the problem because you lack any self awareness or accountability for your actions.
4chan has been a hellhole ever since Jeffrey Epstein convinced Moot to bring back /pol/. This is true, look it up, and the damage that board did cannot be understated.
We get it! You like The Left Rights’ music!
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so OP is consistently getting banned
is OP spouting propaganda supporting foreign influences or terror groups? i guess you think it’s just protesting some very specific thing but people see though that very quickly
what the hell are you talking about?
it takes effort
Go to KiwiFarms.
Then come back to me after a week of surfing there and wonder why.
i dont use kiwifarms but I have used 4chan a lot in the past and it is my favorite site that I ever used…so I have already experienced true freedom of speech and I love it. I just want it to be more mainstream and more people to demand it so there can be a Youtube version of it etc. with mainstream adoption
The point is, is that people can’t be civil enough. True freedom of speech doesn’t give you the right to shout down anyone you think is wrong when they’ve proven you wrong. That’s not how it works.
You’ve not experienced enough of the internet to know this. Actually, combing through your post history, I see why we need some censorship.
Cool story fascist rightist. Let us know more about how much you love fascism.
LMAO! 4chan? Now it all makes sense.
I don’t want to be subjected to what you call “true freedom of speech” because it invariably ends up with the biggest arseholes shouting the loudest. I’m against government censorship but people should be able to choose who they want to listen to because there are a LOT of unmitigated dickheads out there.
I already said in the post that they can have options that let people choose what they are exposed to on the site. You can choose maximum censorship with “kid friendly only” or switch to “no censorship” at any time. For instance on Youtube they ban videos and ban channels constantly rather than just allowing people to choose the amount of censorship they want to experience the site chooses for them and pisses a ton of people off.
You said “I have already experienced true freedom of speech and I love it. I just want it to be more mainstream and more people to demand it”, and I pointed out that most people wouldn’t actually want it due to the problems outlined. The subset of people who like to be able to shout racist slurs at each other with impunity have their own sites for that, and I’m happy for them to be contained there.
do you have a learning disability? I said you could have an option to filter sections you don’t like…leave it up to each individual user so that there isn’t blanket mass censorship. You can turn on “kid friendly only” so that you can censor all the words and topics you are scared of being exposed to without pushing your fascist stances onto everyone else.
It may be hard to accept, but no private company or person are required to grant you a platform.
Free speech means you may say what you want, it doesn’t mean that other people have to accept hosting your conversation.
In the past this was demonstrated with groups having to print and hand out their own flyers and palmphlets to get their word out, these days you expect that to effectively be free by using large social media sites and posting there instead, why should these companies be forced to host content going against their own interests? If that were the case, should socialist and communist website owners be forced to host MAGA content?
There should be mainstream anti-censorhip websites and I am asking why people are not fighting for this more. Society is being severely harmed by all of the censorship. I also never said that sites who promote themselves as a specific private group need to let others join because they are establishing themselves as their own private group. Large sites like Youtube and reddit should be for everyone but they are not, not at all…so people should be pissed off and demanding there be large anti-censorship sites and people can turn on different types of usage of the site as they choose…such as if they want “kid friendly only” there is an option for that…if somebody wants “no censorsip for anything” there is an option for that
The very moment you advertise you’re anti-censorship, you get nazis.
And no one wants to have their community filled with nazis, so those places either die, or they become explicitly nazi communities.
or they become explicitly nazi communities.
For an example, see X
its amazing how many people act like nazis while trying to bash nazis
You dont even realize the hypocrisy? Mass censorship is fascism…which is what nazis did
Imagine being scared of what people say on X 🤣 🤣 🤣
people like you make the left look so weak and retarded…makes me wonder how many of you are actually just bots purposely trying to sabotage the left
What this you:
So you think calling people “retarded” is a totally fine way to express your frustration with having an inability to conduct yourself like an adult?
I see why you keep getting banned.
There it is. Defending the Nazis, while trying to spin it as if you aren’t.
It has nothing to do with being scared of what people say. It has everything to do with cutting out the shit parts of humanity, getting rid of a cancer.
Are you fucking retarded? How is saying “you are acting like a nazi” a defense of the nazis? omfg
nazis were jews by the way…they both carry the same fascist ideologies…and you clearly do as well…you are a fascist
Holy shit dude. You have proven why you keep getting banned loud and clear!
Says they are not a nazi
Generalizes Jews as evil
sure sure, fuck off nazi
Why are you scared of what’s being said on X? If you ever looked there you’d see that at least half of what’s there now is nazi shit.
“We should censor everyone or you might get nazis”
promoting nazi ideology while saying beware of the nazis. Pretty impressive.
So you know, this:
… is the type of shit the Nazi you’re talk to says.
I’m tired of it too. Censorship used to be highly frowned upon in internet culture.
Censorship is when a state or major institution (historically mostly the church) forces you to stay quiet. Not when private companies refuse to give you a podium. If you can still make your own blog with whatever opinion you have, there’s no censorship.
A private company doing censorship is still censorship.
No it’s not. If I run a private newspaper I decide what I want to publish or not. I don’t have any obligation to publish every article sent to me. You probably understand how publishing newspaper cost money and why the owner/editor decides what goes in and what doesn’t. Twitter also doesn’t have any obligation to platform every comment that is published there. They pay for the infrastructure that hosts the content and they decide what to host. You can host your own mastodon instance and publish anything you wont. The government will not prevent you from doing it because that would be censorship. That’s social science 101, very basic stuff.
Whether something qualifies as censorship isn’t about whether a legal obligation exists to not censor.
Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are “offensive,” happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups.
You probably understand how publishing newspaper cost money and why the owner/editor decides what goes in and what doesn’t.
Are you familiar with how billionaires have been buying up and imposing their will on journalism on a massive scale?
You probably think this quote proves your first statement but it doesn’t. Private pressure groups is not the same as private companies.
To explain this with a simple example… Let’s say I want to publish a book with homosexual character. If a private pressure group forces government to prohibit such books and the publishers are legally forbidden from publishing such book - that’s censorship. If I go to a Christian publisher (private company) and they say they don’t want to publish it - it’s not censorship.
If I want to publish a book telling that Obama is a pedophile a publisher (private company) can tell me they don’t want to publish it - that’s not censorship. If I somehow publish that book, Obama can sue me and stop distribution of that book through a court order - that’s also not censorship.
Do you not even understand the post? I am not saying every single entity that exists has to be completely uncensored. I am saying every mainstream site that exists is extremely censored and I am asking why are more people not fighting back against all this censorship and making it the popular opinion that all of this censorship should not be accepted. Even youtube realized that people were looking for alternatives to their site because there is so much censorship on it so they started letting some of the people they banned off of their site back onto it…but this is one tiny compromise they did…nowhere even close to being enough as they still massively censor.
And we’re trying to explain to you that it’s not what censorship is. You’re taking about private companies that operate as businesses, not free speech platforms. Those companies will do what brings them the most profits. If most of their users don’t want to see “controversial” content they will remove it. If most users want to see it and will start moving to services where they can find it they will allow it. And yes, those companies will remove content that they think is bad for business. You’re basically complaining that platforms created to push ads at people through influencers don’t let you post “hardcore” and “edgy” stuff. Yeah, no shit.
You are too retarded to even conversate with. Censorship is censorship no matter what the excuse or reasoning is behind it and whether you think it is justified or not. Censorship is censorship.
More people should be fighting against censorship…lots of people are sick of censorship but obviously not enough yet because mass censorship is still happening. Instead there is many retarded people like you making some of the dumbest arguments.
Is calling people retarded the type of “edgy” content you’re not allowed to post? I’m so shocked you’re getting banned all the time!
you just said the word retarded so you deserve to be banned based on your own fascist ideology
So if my boss threatens my job for speech outside the work place, that’s not censorship?
Your qualifiers are batshit insane. Your are conflating the first amendment and even doing that poorly with the church.
Your boss firing you for the wrong reason falls under labor law and worker protection, not censorship. Threatening you like that would be considered mobbing. I can threaten that I will beat you up if you don’t delete that comment but that’s also not censorship, that’s harassment. To use car analogy, government refusing to give you a driving licensee would be infringing on your right to travel but me stilling your car would be simply theft. Different actions can lead to similar outcomes but they are still completely different crimes.
So if my boss threatens my job for speech outside the work place, that’s not censorship?
I’d say that is censorship, those are real consequences that would be enough to make people shut up. Which is very different from losing a podium by being banned from Facebook or whatever.
I’m not American, I don’t not conflate your first amendment with anything. I’m saying that being kicked from a podium for not following the rules of that podium is not censorship.
So many people in this thread trying to make this first amendment type deal. We’re fucking doomed.
The answer is nobody, especially pitch fork terminally online communities like hard to swallow pills and act like tribal monkeys when you separate people with a screen.
Without any context, I don’t think anyone can offer any suggestions. Who banned you? And for what?
I’m just going to assume Op is having a meltdown because he cant find any child porn to watch.
its the only reason I can think to be as vague as he is being. Anything else he’d have no problem giving examples and specifics.
Are you reading the comments?? This kid is all the way unhinged!!
You are the only common denominator between all those accounts that have gotten banned. I don’t shy away from voicing unpopular opinions either, yet I virtually never get banned or even have my messages removed. It’s usually not about what you say, but how you say it.
OP is coming off pretty hostile in a lot of the replies on this post… Maybe the issue isn’t the opinions that are getting censored, maybe they’re getting banned because people (and mods) think they’re a bit of an ass.
Yeah, I get banned as I like to voice my opinion and others don’t want to hear it. Shouldn’t get me banned from Reddit but here I am.
Yeah, the ableism is a dead-giveaway they’re a little 4chan trollololol, that’s come here for the memes. Ironically, I reported their dumb shit. We don’t need this shit here.
Big L mate, its obviously a skill issue. Youre being banned left and right because you cant communicate with people in a regular tone. Taking a cursory glance of your comments here and elsewhere, you are what we referred to in the olden days as ‘a huge asshole’.
if everywhere smells like shit, its probably your stench.
“Stop oppressing my oppressive beliefs!”
Just to clear it up, you really are antisemitic, not a “criticize Israel so get labelled as an” antisemitic, and your only counter to it is literally just being a grammar Nazi (Would you deny getting called anti-Judeist then?)
You aren’t necessarily a Nazi, just a bigot. A one dimensional indicator like “left” and “right” isn’t really particular good at identifying bigots.
This is obviously a troll making a bad faith post and exactly the kind of shit we don’t want going on around here.
