Treats for the treatlerites!
Democrats should, but they won’t so long as Schumer and Jeffries are in positions of power.
Health insurance companies are a network of scams to try to milk people of their money. Decisions that should be made by someone who is a Doctor of Medicine have been taken over by greedy capitalists. The system will be insanely simple and cheaper with a single-payer system. I stopped paying for private health insurance years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare
The economy may crash if we get rid of the health insurance companies, but it’s a sacrifice we are all FUCKING WET AND WILLING to make
I’m sliding out of my chair
If Democrats want to win in 2028, they’ll do this, but maybe some of them don’t want that.
That’s a hundred years away.
There will be a huge amount of fraud from corp owned clinics and hospitals. Just like there already is. But they will try to do more fraud and over-charging while the system is set up.
Luckily, a ton of people with experience working in health insurance will be needing new jobs.
I myself used to work in health insurance.
I remember when the Obama care kicked in. The company I worked for jacked up all the premiums. And lowered the benefits.
Because the Obama care paid what the individuals couldn’t. So the higher the premium and the worse the benefits, the more money the insurance company made.
They were charging people $500 a month for shit insurance. That was worse than what people had 6 months previously for $360. $2000 deductable (vs previous $900). Max out of pocket moved up to 5 digits when it had been around $6,000).
I wasn’t sure how that wasnt illegal. But they did it. And I never saw it change. I never saw any healthcare company getting called out for the premium spikes that only applied to people getting the ACA subsidies.
It’s waste like that , that I’m worried about.
These healthcare companies claimed that the ACA would cost them billions. Because people who were sick. Who had long standing health problems that were severe from not being treated, would be running to the DR now that they had insurance. (Yes, this was their real argument. God knows we had a fuck ton of meetings on it,)
Yet in reality, A law expanding health insurance to so many people, essentially getting a ton of people to buy their product (insurance) was going to make them $$$$$$
Like it was so obvious. They wouldn’t loose a dime.
At the same time they fired more than half the people I worked with and outsourced the work to Malaysia.
So the u.s government gave billions to greedy companies that immediately cut corners to provide a lower quality product whilst simultaneously jacking up the subscription cost and paying out less than ever before.
Also that company was hcsc that I worked for. A blue cross subsidiary. (I think that’s the right term).
A whole new government department will need created, staffed.
With state oversight departments.
Billing software will need created unless existing is up to the task. Idk how old it is.
Reviews of hospitals and clinics costs and charges will need reviewed from every location and pricing allowances determined.
A lot of this already exists for Medicaid and Medicare though.
This would honestly take at minimum, 2 years. Even piggybacking from Medicaid/Medicare infrastructure and logistics.
Dental and vision will probably take longer.
But a lot of Medicaid/Medicare current work infrastructure likely needs a huge overhaul. I think there will be a demand to get it going.
It’s going to take an enormous amount of planning and human resources, but under the right project planner and good oversight , it can be done. Effeciently.
If the rich are so happy with private healthcare then they can keep paying extra all they want, but pay into the public system for the majority who wants this and knows it’s better. No more bankruptcies or lose it when job is gone, that’s more freedom and costs less too.
We’ll end up with Medicare for More at best.
Jeffries says no
And sadly a lot of dems in the senate and house
Jeffries must go
Yup. You want to only focus on economic relief because it’s too hard for your little leadership brain and body to do more than one thing, then do something bold to actually address economic relief and fix Romneycare the right way.
I mean, do it fucking now. (By now I mean early next year and not never, which is historically the timeline democrats work on)
The best Democrats can do is put it to a vote that will inevitably be shot down by a silent / lazy / cloture filibuster, and if not that, a veto by Trump. Still, they might as well do it and then point loudly to Republicans blocking the way of progress and campaign on this into 2028.
What Dems can do now:
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They CAN skirt the silent filibuster with a procedures vote that only takes a simple majority (“nuclear option”). It’s not quite as comprehensive as truly removing it, but it would suffice (this is when Traitor Sinema curtsied and blocked its removal last time).
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They CAN effectively abolish the Electoral College and push first at state-level and then in Congress (probably via omnibus bill) the The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Dems won enough state legislatures and Congress to do this! Put another way: If this was in place for 2016, Trump would’ve lost and would likely have been relegated to history thereafter.
These two things alone (along with the principled legislation of M4A noted above) would set Democrats up massively for 2028.
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Yep, get rid of health insurance companies aside from as upgraded coverage. Works great in France and so many other places with superior health outcomes than the US.
Hell I’d even be fine following the German SHI system. Just something that would actually provide actual universal coverage and regulate the out of control insurance companies.
Yes, it fucking ridiculous. CEO’s getting shot, people dying for stupid reasons…this would solve it, except the A-hole CEO’s.
The asshole CEOs are the ones donating campaign contributions. Until that legal bribery is reversed, the politicians will fall en mass to the will of the CEOs. But Clarence Thomas wanted an rv so now we’ve got citizens united.
If somebody donned a green hat each week until this passed, CEOs would move into a compound by week 3, and this would still not pass. I think it will take something much more extreme. There’s way too much for the owners to lose by letting health insurance slip through their fingers. It’s not just money, but control to keep the laborers obedient and loyal. We NEED health insurance, so we stay with our abusers. I don’t know what action it would actually take to get M4A, but I’m pretty sure that saying it would get me banned from a lot of internet platforms and maybe get feds knocking on my door to ask a few questions. It would take good trouble, to say the least.
Yeah, it’s not happening without a revolution. And I don’t just say that because I would prefer humanity survive its own stupidity. The way healthcare is organised in the US is so far gone that
M4A would undermine the entire system.
Huh…you told us this was impossible, but here it is, and it actually works far better for the absence of profit-seekers.
Now a terrible burden of socioeconomic pressure has been lifted. Wait…what else have you been lying to us about? What assumptions have I grown up with that were not my own?It’s not just money, but control to keep the laborers obedient and loyal. We NEED health insurance, so we stay with our abusers.
Yep, it’s part of their “jobs you can’t quit” agenda (courtesy of Doctorow).
You’re the right for the most part. However, you can say what you like on the internet. I say we should kill all billionaires and execute Trump on a regular basis and nothing happens. Don’t make them out to be stronger than they are.
Start organizing protests. They won’t give it if everyone is only calling for it.
