• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    15 days ago

    I am juat gonna say it too:
    Fuck society
    Fuck humans
    Fuck this Saturday (*depending on timezone)

    Can’t we just fucking live in a sort of harmony? PLEASE.

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    17 days ago

    I believe this is the wrong template, as the meme is supposed to imply that the person is stating a weak, irrelevant opinion. However, this statement is clearly superior and strong.

    That said, communication is fluid as it relies on people essentially “voting” and “agreeing” on the meaning by participating and engaging in it. Therefore I become the person as originally intended in the meme by potentially communicating something irrelavant.

    Ah, the self-own. Myself, how I have burned thee

  • content_educator_94@thelemmy.club
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    16 days ago

    Zionism is equivalent to Nazism.

    Zionism at its heart is a form of violent Fascism, as well as a form of Settler-Colonialism that maintains it’s prominence and territorial expansion by commiting genocide.

    Zionism should be met with the same vigorous resistance and removal from society as Nazism.

    Zionism PREDATES Nazism. Modern political Zionism started in 1897, the Nazi movement didn’t begin until the 1920s.

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      16 days ago

      And because SO many people can’t seem to wrap their heads around this concept and keep shouting their ignorance at us I feel the need to constantly yell back at them:

      Anti-Zionism is NOT being anti-Semitic or hating Jews or hating the PEOPLE.

      Anti-Nazism is NOT being anti-German or hating Germans or hating the PEOPLE.

      Anti-Fascism is NOT being anti people or races or religions or literally ANYTHING except the politics/philosophy/actions/behaviors/hate/control/abuse that is fascism.

      We are literally ONLY protesting the genocides, the murder of innocent people, the bombing of civilian areas, the abuse and horric conditions, the hate, the racism, the fear mongering, the lies, the gaslighting, the violence. WE ONLY WANT PEACE FFS!!! STOP CALLING US RACIST FOR WANTING CEASEFIRES!!!

  • deeprlyeh@lemmus.org
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    17 days ago

    We need to share social media feeds from Israel, posted by Israels. Some interest stuff in there.

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        17 days ago

        I’m not posting that stuff or giving links to it. Trying to get me banned for posting death videos and racism?

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          No, you didn’t specify what it was you were talking about. My only social media is Lemmy. I did not assume Israeli social media was fucking death videos.

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            It can’t all be. I know there are many Israelis who are against genocide, and there have been protests against the governments treatment of Palestinians.

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              I know there are many Israelis who are against genocide

              Eh, not really. There are some, but polling shows that a super majority support the genocide?

              there have been protests against the governments treatment of Palestinians.

              There have been some small ones, but even them are mostly “genocide is too far, it should just be permanent apartheid”

            • huppakee@lemmy.world
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              It’s hard to find trustworthy information about Israeli support for the actions of their country in Gaza and the west-bank from 2026, but the numbers that did show up earlier make me sadder everytime. These two article reference the same data, from one year ago. I have no reason to believe Israeli support for the people in Palestine. The small group of people who stand up against war seem to do that mostly because the life of Israeli soldiers (who are conscripted teenagers really). It’s unclear to me how well informed the public is about the scale of the war crimes, but it is obvious to everyone the army purposefully targets non-combatants (children, doctors, journalists, civilians) and in general it seems the public supports that.

              A new poll published in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reveals that genocidal rhetoric, once confined to Israel’s extremist settler fringe, has now moved into the mainstream, with overwhelming public support for ethnic cleansing, mass killings, and biblical revenge.

              Conducted by the Geocartography Knowledge Group for Penn State University in March 2025, the survey of 1,005 Israeli Jews paints a chilling picture of a society increasingly radicalised by religious nationalism and emboldened by war.

              https://www.trtworld.com/article/8802bc2d5043

              The survey, conducted in March and published by Haaretz newspaper on Thursday, found that 82 percent of Israeli Jews support the forced expulsion of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

              Meanwhile, 47 percent of Israeli Jews answered yes to the question: “Do you support the claim that the [Israeli army] in conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites did when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, ie to kill all its inhabitants?” The reference is to the biblical account of the conquest of Jericho.

              https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll

              Let that headline sink in: Nearly half of Israelis support army killing all Palestinians in Gaza.

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                  I see so you not understanding the most basic details of what you are running your mouth about = everyone else’s must be racist. Got it. Well I’m real concerned about that accusation.

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            17 days ago

            They post videos like it is 1950s USA. Screaming about killing children and getting rid of their blood line. Its wild.

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    16 days ago

    2 state solution.

    No more Iran and US intervention.

    Sanctions on Israel to rebuild.

    If they managed peace in the balkans, then you can find peace anywhere.

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      16 days ago

      Would germany want a 2 state solutions with the nazis? No. They obliterated them and send them to a tribunal.

      No more nazis as a state. Now the modern germany exists.

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        It’s not that simple. East Germany is still far right politically and votes for authoritarian groups like AfD. The Nazis are gone but their influence is still there.

        I get what you are saying and agree on the surface level. But the Nazis that were tried and removed were the leaders, not all the regular Nazi citizens. And Israelis hate Palestinians as much or more than Nazis hated Jews but certainly more than Nazis hated other Germans. And unfortunately it’s easier to see on the skin level the difference in who is who. The two shouldn’t integrate into a single country is my point.

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            Who funded Hamas?

            Great question! Before October 7th terror strikes, Hamas had been funded by

            • Iran (principal military sponsor)
            • Qatar
            • Multiple private donors all over the world
            • Taxes from Gaza (since they were the primary government there)
            • Overseas investments

            You are alluding to the borderline antisemitic conspiracy theory that Israel was funding Hamas, which is almost true, since they allowed Qatari money to flow in their hands. Israel has not funded Hamas directly, however. Still a bad decision by Benjamin Netanjahu though, in retrospect.

            Why was Hamas created?

            Hamas grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood, as an uprising to the Israeli occupation of Gaza. Its primary reason of being was to compete against the more secular Fatah/PLO. In contrast, Hamas is explicitly Islamist. Israel again allowed this to happen, which in retrospect was perhaps a mistake. This is also the basis of another rather crazy conspiracy theory, namely that of Israel creating Hamas for some convoluted plot that would allow them eventually to conquer all of Gaza, or something.

            Bet you won’t answer my questions.

            Hope you didn’t bet more than you can afford.

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          holy shit do you even know what im talking about? do metaphors just goes straight above your head? here, let me do THE work for you.

          The nazis are BAAAAD The germans, some are GOOOOD They want BAAAAD people to go away They want BAAAAAAAD people to be afraid so they kill, murder, and tribune their problems away

          They dont want a two state solution, if it exist, because who the fuck wants to make peace with an organization that kills without care for the sake of glory?

          God, Sometimes I thought I was still on reddit. Please think before saying, “not this shit again”. Touch grass. Meet real people. Actually, meet palestinians and ask them directly why they dont want a two state solution, which the test of the west wants.

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            You should probably learn to choose your words more wisely.

            Don’t belittle the atrocities of the nazis by comparing their victims to them. It’s fucking disgusting.

            What a brilliant idea. Ask the israelis if they want a two state solution. What do you think the answer will be? Find peace in a compromise that stops the killings.

            I compared the fights to the atrocities in the balkans, which is a WAY more apt metaphor, but you also don’t seem like the kind of person that reads about conflicts. It seems that you just want to follow the edgy opinion without thought.

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      I’m a simple man.

      I see people being nice, I respect them. I see people hurting others I say fuck ‘em.

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        You know what I mean? It doesn’t have to be harder than that. It used to be how we showed each other what is acceptable and what isn’t. That… doesn’t seem to “take” anymore.

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          You would think a group that suffered the most horrific treatment from the nazis would do the exact opposite, not improve on their playbook

          That “never forget” slogan seems to mean “shoot first so they can’t” lately.

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            They missed the part about “turn the other cheek”. Maybe that’s not in their religion, eh.

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      I’m actually becoming deeply convinced that one of the biggest dangers to the Jewish community is Israel itself.

      As things currently stand, they have the power to make people hate Jewish people more than just about anything else in this world.

      Not because I’m conflating being Jewish with being Israeli or vice versa, but because that appears to be the message they want to the world to embrace. That is really synonymous with being Jewish.

      Look at how quickly right wingers run the world are to jump to calling you anti-Semitic if you don’t appreciate something israel does.

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    This is another good example of saying “Fuck (country name)” they’re usually talking about the government of that country, and not necessarily the citizens. For example, Russia can fuck right off, but I’d expect that most Russian citizens are decent people who are merely drowning in propaganda. Lots of people are, all around the world.

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      Tbh, Israelis as a whole invite a lot of hate upon themselves by wholeheartedly supporting outright genocide. Public polling there shows a disturbingly large number of even young, secular Israelis advocate for killing everyone in Gaza, including women and children:

      https://zeteo.com/p/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israelis

      https://theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-have-migrated-from-the-margins-to-the-mainstream-250010

      That doesn’t mean every Israeli or every Jewish person is culpable or suspect, ofc. But I think it’s even more justifiable to distrust the country as a whole as it is to distrust the US electorate after re-electing Trump. Netanyahu is corrupt and bloodthirsty, but his policies still enjoy broad support from voters there.

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      17 days ago

      Yes even US Americans are probably just decent people generally. I know it’s hard to imagine with some of these countries but we shouldn’t forget people aren’t their governments.

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        Yeah, Americans can be insufferable but I try to consider that they’re indoctrinated from birth and people be people. Birthplace doesn’t dictate the person

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            No. I’ve had several people admit to me that the hatred is the point.

            Anyine who still supports this regime is supporting them because of the hatred.

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                I judge people based on their choices and actions.

                Some have chosen to embrace the hatred. And so I judge them for it.

                At this point in my life, I’m not interested in attempting to redeem people who have chosen evil.

            • UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world
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              Hate is a multi-billion dollar business in America. The capital class spends obscene amounts of money to keep people hating each other and stoke the culture war. It’s the evolution of the old school union busting on the 1900s.

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            I don’t think anyone not living in America understands how deeply propaganda is pushed here across media and culture. The ruling class has distorted everything so much it’s hard to have a coherent conversation with most people on real issues. The misinformation and capital class talking points are intensely deep seated.

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              Eh, the rest of the western world aren’t really any better in this regard, as much as they try to pretend that they are

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              I think it’s pretty obvious for us here outside the US too. It is like bad body odour, it is harder to notice when you’re inside it and used to it.

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      I fully mean fuck the state and the people of Israel. May their country be destroyed and the lands returned to the Palestinians. Israelis can go flee to the US or something for all I care.

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      I take that approach for almost countries, but I have a hard time with Israel because their polls continue to show 80%+ support for the genocide. That’s a huge portion of the population to be irredeemable.

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      82% of Israelis support the ethnic cleansing of All Palestinians, which is a textbook crime against humanity.

      56% support removing every arab/Palestinian CITIZEN of Israel from israel permanently, and revoking their Israeli citizenship based on their race.

      47% agreed with the idea of killing every single Palestinian like the biblical wars in their book.

      https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans

      So theres no need to bend over backward to protect the Israeli public. No one assigned these views to them, this is what the vast majority of them choose to believe. many people on this thread try so hard to separate them from their government and assign all the crimes to the government. Except for a tiny majority, this murder and ethnic cleansing is exactly what they say they want and what they support. The problem is not just their governments, its the vast majority of the people too.

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      I mean at this point half the internet is The Israel Hating Website. The days when anti-Zionism was restricted to leftists and Muslims are long gone.

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      its the entire planet who holds this opinion, not just this website. humanity just hate crimes against humanity, it turns out. Is that surprising to you? It gives me hope that humanity is decent.

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    Y’all so brave saying that. Care saying “Fuck Palestine” in these places?

    jk, Free Palestine!

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      Fuck palestine. A miserably failed British colony, created after colonies weren’t cool anymore so they had to call it “Mandate”. The people in palestine need help though, because they are obviously unable to help themselves.