• DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    It’s not up to politicians to tell people what to expect of them. The people are the ones who tell the politicians what is expected of them.

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      This IS the point. We The People have to force them to do the right thing, a.k.a. our Right to Petition our representatives for a redress of our grievances. Get on the phone, email, snail mail, text message, and don’t let up.

      "Why it matters: Impeachment has been a fraught subject for Democrats this year, with Jeffries acknowledging that Republican control of both chambers of Congress makes any impeachment effort virtually dead on arrival.

      "Republicans will never allow articles of impeachment to be brought to the floor of the House of Representatives, and we know that's the case," Jeffries said at a press conference Monday.
      "Donald Trump will order them not to do it," he added."
      

      I always prefer to let others make their own decisions, rather than pre-guessing them. Let the GOPers have the opportunity to defend their lack of prosecution of war crimes. And then the DEMs can make a talking point of that GOP decision.

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        Exactly why dem’s struggle so much. Go on every damn tv station that will let you… get on every damn podcast you can… scream from the rooftops "HEY WE WANT TO PUNISH THIS ILLEGAL SHIT and they don’t want us to. Force them on the defensive… their base is already turning on them. We’re watching districts flip in real time, show the american people what you are trying to do, so we can actually help you do it.

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          Almost every media outlet is controlled by the same corrupt billionaires who are getting fatter off the Trump presidency.

          Screaming from the rooftops won’t do shit.

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    Jeffries says Democrats will disappoint you exactly as you expected they would.

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      More people need to get this. Obama and Biden conducted airstrikes with the exact same expectations and the exact same “unlawful combatant” policy allowing us to ignore the Geneva conventions.

      I guarantee anyone reading this that the guy calling these strikes has done the same thing his entire career. If they want to change that policy then go for it. But don’t expect anyone to be prosecuted over doing it before that.

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        I’ve been saying that the whole investigation thing is a nothing burger because to credibly go after Trump Democrats would also have to go after Obama.

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          It’s also why both parties support Israel and neither will condemn their treatment of Palestinians. It’s too easy to pivot the conversation to what the US has done for the past 25 years in the Middle East. In both cases a horrible terrorist attach led to an incredibly violent over-reaction.

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            I think that’s easier than self investigation though. We can always fend that off by calling it whataboutism. In fact that’s exactly how we handle calling out Chinese and Iranian abuses. Israel quite simply has a loyal voting block in the US that our politicians are afraid of. They don’t run the country or any of that conspiracy crap but they are incredibly active in defending Israel.

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    don’t worry, nobody had or has the expectation of Democrats doing anything even remotely beneficial to the people and country. stress less.

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    Don’t worry I don’t expect Democrats to do anything even vaguely resembling vertebrate work. Just keep inching along, you worms, and get replaced by a functional, good government.

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      The only way the Untied States is getting a functional government and justice system is if there’s a revolution

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      While I agree many if not most need to go, when the guy was asked if they would file impeachment articles, his response was basically there is no way the Republicans are going to vote on it so their is no point. Which is true. The Republicans would see a successful impeachment of Hegseth as a fracture that would allow all Republicans to have to answer for their crimes eventually. They’ll shit on every single one of their constituents wants before they do that.

      Shit I don’t know if Johnson would even let it come to a vote

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    “Republicans will never allow articles of impeachment to be brought to the floor of the House of Representatives, and we know that’s the case,” Jeffries said at a press conference Monday.

    Okay, but that is very different from not persueing an impeachment. Sometimes you do something, just to create a forum.

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        Always a democrat move.

        Which was why the shutdown was such a shock, and got so much support because people were happy democrats were actually finally taking the thumbs out of their asses and doing something.

        Of course, if a democrat wont give up before beginning, they’ll always give in after starting.

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    This is a perfect example of something you can use in a “both parties are the same” argument.

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      That argument favors the Right.

      Every Dem candidate since 1980 has pushed pretty much the same agenda s Jimmy Carter.

      Every GOP candidate since 1980 has been further and further Right.

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        NAFTA? Welfare “reform”? Obamacare?

        That last one was literally a plan from the Heritage Institute.

        Democrats are the more effective evil. Or they were, until recently.

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    I can only assume this means Jefferies thinks state sanctioned murder is permissable enough to not lose your job over. Which is a really dumb stance for someone way more likely to be a target of state sanctioned murder than a benefactor of it. Would anyone who excoriated us for criticizing Jefferies and the Dems inaction about kicking him out like to speak up today and continue defending him?

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    Of course we don’t expect it. That would require the Democrats to be something other than worthless sacks of shit (with a few vanishingly rare exceptions).