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I had this with Interstellar. The story is that most plants died and they can’t grow food but corn. So they’re at a baseball game and this older character says “Popcorn?! I’m sick of corn, I want a hotdog”. He knows there aren’t hotdogs anymore, he’s just frustrated at the situation. Nobody responds.
That’s the moment everyone should have jumped up to shut up grandpa. You can’t say that! Billions died, you insensitive asshat. Be glad you have food. Eating meat would be socially unacceptable because you can’t feed society that way anymore. It would be on the level of grandpa saying old-timey racist shit out loud in public
No that’s realistic lol. Nobody would have said shit other than to agree, because after all of that everyone would want a hot dog.
Humans in general don’t deal with mass change that well. Look at Covid.
They’d bitch at the government, bitch at their neighbors, and find a nationalized group to blame for why the way of life changed.
It wasn’t that long of a time period in interstellar. The whole collapse happened over about 30 years. So anyone over around 40 would have remembered a normal time and would agree with grandpa. They’d have seen their lives get worse and worse and desperately want to go back to the old life.
I get what you’re saying but I think society would change much more in 30 years with billions of deaths compared to covid which effectively lasted for like 2-3 years. A generation would grow up that doesn’t know any better. Society would change. Covid was peanuts compared to the crisis in the movie. There is no going back in the movie.
All of humanity is doomed but the movie doesn’t really show what that would do to society generally. A movie like Children of Men does show that. They also still have blaming immigrants and shit, but at least that movie doesn’t pretend life would carry on as normal when faced with “no more food, we’re all going to die”
There’s suspending disbelief, and then there’s suspending disbelief.
The one that gets me. In all the crazy wild stuff in The Fast and the Furious franchise.
I can’t handle the safe drag scene in the 5th movie. There is no way those Chargers could drag a safe full of money with any sort of speed, if at all. I don’t care how reinforced the frame is, or how much NOS they throw at it. Even if the thing happened to have wheels on it.
I can accept shit like, cars parachuting from a plane, and cars on ice battling a giant submarine, but not that stupid safe drag chase.
Yeah, that scene soured me on the franchise too. The first few were kinda stupid, but you could make an argument that the things they were doing was just regular car shit, albeit pushed the very, very extreme.
Then they yoinked a safe out a reinforced concrete wall with a car, and didn’t just tear the fucking towing hitch off? Nah mate.
The cars fine even weigh enough to do that. They’d just break traction and spin the wheels lol.
What gets me, is they had The Rock with his little tank truck that would ALMOST believable be able to drag it around maybe, but still probably not very fast. Hell at one point they || Swap the real safe to a garbage truck || and I would find it more plausible that they put some huge engine in the back of that and sped it around more easily.
I’m like this when something gets very basic technology wrong.
“I’ll create a GUI interface using Visual Basic. See if I can track down the IP Address”
I’d like to see a cop show that applies that level of writing to guns.
A: What can you tell me about the bullet you recovered from the victim?
B: It’s a handgun round, caliber 9x19 inch, solid steel frangible hollow-point. Fired with a muzzle velocity of 100 joules, one of these can punch through an inch of hardened RHA like wet toilet paper.
A: 100 joules?! Jesus Christ, that’s enough to kill someone!
B: Exactly. This is the kind of bullet only a professional would use. Thankfully the firing pin left an imprint on the bullet; if we can find the shop that sold the gun they can tell us who fired it.
A: Only one shop in LA carries weapons that powerful. Let’s go.
…velocity in joules?
Yes, that is certainly the only inaccurate part in that dialogue. ;)
that’s the one that stood out in my sleep deprived state :P
With scenes like that and the ‘two characters typing on the same keyboard to hack faster’ one, I’m 90% sure it’s just the writers having fun and seeing what they can get away with. Long-running formulaic shows must be boring as hell to write for, so I can understand the impulse.
Funny enough, writing a GUI using VB.NET isn’t even a bad idea, it just didn’t have anything to do with the task
It’s just about the easiest language to create a GUI in, too. It’s like saying “I’ll write a quick Hello World, and then we’ve got this case in the bag!”
sudo apt install hollywoodOr use “complicated technology” to prove some utter bs.
I’ll accept whatever the premise of the thing asks of me to enjoy the story; that dragons exist, the main character finds a real spellbook, there’s a secret community of shapeshifters, or that there’s a long-lost secret artifact with magical properties. It’s not a documentary.
But breaking internal logic is different. Unless someone’s mentioned time travel, it’s still a huge issue that it was Sunday in one scene and Friday in another on the same day.
Some people hate ‘The Hulk’ because they can buy genetic mutation that turns him giant and green, sure… But where the fuck is the extra body mass coming from? You can’t just gain weight from nothing. Yes, magic does exist in the MCU, but he didn’t get his powers from magic, did he?!
I mean… Marvel has clearly shown that in their world mutations just unlock some sort of magic. None of the X-Men powers make any sense in a world where conservation of mass / energy is a thing, the only possible explanation is that those genes unlock magic potential, so it’s not breaking internal logic, that a specific mutation unlocked some kind of anger-magic in Dr. Banner.
Marvel has clearly shown that in their world mutations just unlock some sort of magic.
This never gets mentioned, but I wonder what responsibility Marvel bears for the generally low level of comprehension in our society of how evolution by natural selection actually works.
True, though I didn’t mean I had a problem with it.
Just that a supposed scientist finding there’s a gene that just lets you break physics and nobody of authority in-universe really commenting on entire branches of modern science being scrapped is too much of a stretch in logic for some.
I don’t care about the extra mass, but how do his boxers work?
Some people hate ‘The Hulk’ because they can buy genetic mutation that turns him giant and green, sure… But where the fuck is the extra body mass coming from? You can’t just gain weight from nothing. Yes, magic does exist in the MCU, but he didn’t get his powers from magic, did he?!
My understanding is that hulk gets his strength (and size/mass) from his anger. So in the universe, anger must have energy that hulk converts to mass
Someone explained to me that apparently in later comics it has been revealed that the gamma radiation that his anger resonates with is drawn from something called the green door which is created by a character known as the one below it all who is more or less Satan (gods nasty alter ego).
And apparently this is limitless so if he gets pissed enough he could destroy the universe as we know it.
Right… but then anger itself would require huge amounts of calories. You can’t just create energy.
Perhaps its pulled from another dimension, like Cyclop’s laser from the DCU, or maybe it’s another force of the universe, like the speed force also from the DCU. There’s endless ways to explain it.
You mean the Cyclops on xmen (marvel) or does DC also have a cyclops character that shoots a powerful laser?
My mistake yes cyclops from the MCU
The gamma does turn him green. Maybe that’s not just stylistic, maybe he’s photosynthesizing.
Sunlight only contains so much energy. Even if he’s managing to metabolise every bit with no loss, there’s not nearly enough light hitting him at any one moment for that to really make sense. If he’s always photosynthesising and his body storing it for later somehow… he’d put on a huge amount of weight in his non-Hulk form.
Well, I mean, he is wearing those purple shorts. Maybe they’re… battery shorts.
I think this is covered by the Pym particles explained in Ant-Man.
Ant-Man makes lots of things, and himself, turn giant, so by Occam’s razor, why not say Hulk’s mutations allow his cells to access the same mechanism.
There is nothing wrong with this.
I know. It’s unlikely, but possible that a professor of archaeology gets up to all sorts of adventures, but non native snakes in a pit is impossible.
It’s more that if the story is about human drama and adventure, and then suddenly you go from desert to tropical island, or if everyone changes clothes to Victorian era, not all people will pick up on it. But some will, and it’s enough to go from an adventure story where the actions are the fiction, to “woah… Hey, now it looks like you just don’t care to tell the story right.”
It’s that. Attention to detail.
Rather, the care imparted into a work of art.
If they don’t care, neither do I.
Nazis dragging looted treasures all over the world but nobody could import a bunch of snakes for their snake pit?
I demand films that show a realistic amount of traffic, even when traffic is completely unrelated to the story.
This is sadly why I couldn’t get into andor :(
Please expand on “this”
They went to the space post office on a space Sunday.
What were they thinking.
The thing about Andor is they always try and walk it in
Like people would actually rise up and fight against a totalitarian government run by the biggest assholes.
Totally unbelievable.
Not like the Prequels before it where everyone eagerly clapped along to installing said Assholes as leaders. That is way more realistic.
Exactly! And then before I could start watching the people that won’t rise up came online bragging about how brave and great Andor is.
I’mma about to ruin medical shows/scenes for y’all. And once you see this, you cannot unsee it. the source for all this is the 15 years I spent riding in the back of the bus as a medic.
When you see a scene in the ER and a critical patient arrives, all the doctors go rushing into the exam room and start doing things and arguing about what to do. If we put this stupidity aside for a moment and roll back the scene to the beginning we will see the mistakes the show makes every time.
First, doctors don’t rush into the exam room the moment the patient arrives. The doctor, just one and not a whole squad of them, will wait for a moment or two to let the medics and nurses get the patient on to a bed and the triage nurse gets the medic’s report.
When the Medics and the cot leaves the room, the doctor will walk to the doorway and stop. Most of them will actually lean against the door jam and just look for a minute or so. They are making their first assessment of the patient from that distance and begin to formulate a treatment plan. Doctors are ACTUALLY TAUGHT to do this medical school. And they practice it because it’s hard to remember in an oh shit moment and hard to do. Even us medics are taught the same thing. If the TV doctor does NOT do this, this is your first warning that this a bullshit medical show no matter what the producers and actors claim about realism. This is basic and fundamental to ER medicine and would be soooo easy to do. This is the point where I’m out and ne’er to be seen again.
The second mistake that gets made is that the doctors themselves do very little of the actual treatment of the patient. They stand off to the side and tell the nurses what they want them to do. The nurses do most of the work. The doctor observes and directs. Only if a procedure that requires a doctors skill and knowledge to do, do they get hands on. So that’s the second bullshit thing in these shows.
And finally, doctors do not consult in the patient’s room unless it absolutely can’t be avoided. Which is very rare. They have a room, generally behind the nurses station where they go for that. I have been in there with doctors on occasions when I asked for a teaching moment to further my skills as a medic from one of them. And no matter what hospital, that’s where we would go.
And isn’t CPR deliberately depicted wrongly in movies and shows because the proper IRL CPR procedure risks breaking a person’s ribs?
Oh, you break ribs when done right.
Speaking of medical dramas:
I was amazed how Stargate Atlantis got one medical procedure right over so many medical dramas I’ve seen.
Patient is in defib, so they get the defibrillator. Doesn’t work, patient’s heart stops. They take away the defibrillator and start doing chest compressions.
I was just… Woaw. This series plays so fast and loose with science. Didn’t expect that.
That’s pretty close, but no cigar. You never remove the defib. Then you do 2 minutes more of compressions and then you re-analyze again. Wash rinse and repeat until you are relieved or someone with the authority to decide tells you to stop.
Now, if one of the characters is a medical doctor or the idiot script writer in this case, they were quasi military right, then those people can make a decision to stop CPR. But it would have been a more accurate scene if they just shown them starting CPR, doing a cut scene to everyone being exhausted and done. Or checking the body and seeing an obvious sign of death like lividity and not even starting. So still pretty poor writing.
The worst part is that it’s so easy to get this stuff right. It’s just simple things. not rocket surgery.
But they will share all the details with any random supporter waiting for the procedure to be finished in the otherwise empty waiting room, right?
Oh yeah, that is so totally true. HIPPA doesn’t apply to strangers in the hallway.
Is he going to make it, doc?
cries
I don’t know. Damn it Jim! I’m a piano player, not a Doctor!
most of those snakes aren’t native to the Middle East
Noah put them in the Ark just before the Flood, duh.
I won’t stop watching, but it drives me nuts when lawyers in a show misuse “begs the question”
I think there are probably about three people who use the expression “begs the question” as it’s defined in books. Through misuse it has evolved to mean, “brings up the question,” just as “based off” has come to mean the same as “based on”.
lawyers would know the difference
We got three of those people right here in this thread baby.
Aristotle in the house
It drives me nuts when anyone gets that wrong.
“But language evolves!!”
Oh yeah? Evolve yourself back into the fucking sea!
Oh yeah? Evolve yourself back into the fucking sea!
Whales and dolphins: hold my legs
How do you feel about other words or phrases with multiple definitions, like “theory”?
If a scientist character uses the word in a scientific settings with the colloquial meaning, it would annoy me.
Normalise removing your interest and presence from bullshit situations 👏🏻
But then there’s the films that nail even the most pointless things
I love that level of detail in books! Reportedly in the first 6 books of the Wheel of Time every time they mention the moon, it’s in the correct phase. Iirc it’s never relevant to the plot.
I’m like this if a movie’s plot can only happen because of bad communication.
Yeah, I’m watching the show Below right now, and they’re faking into the “we can’t advance the plot without a failure to properly communicate” rhythm, as expected with Netflix, and so much modern TV in general.
I was able to tolerate more of this in movies than I used to after acknowledging that tons of people in real life suck at communication.
Like its honestly one of more believable situations. Look at Home Alone, those parents saw Kevin not once yet decided to leave the driveway. They got on a bloody plane without him
I think a lot of sitcoms rely on it because it’s a way to create conflict without needing to create a bad guy.
Malcolm in the Middle is an example of a show that didn’t rely on miscommunication for every plot and I realized during my first streaming watch through that there isn’t a single recurring character on the show that I’d consider a decent person.
That’s how you lucid dream. You realize the absurd, then wake up in the dream. Then, it goes where you want it.
What kills me. The smart person, call them a leader in molecular biology. That can suddenly fly a space ship. Operate everything in said space ship. Write a computer program, in excel, to translate an alien species. Like come on dawg. I get it. You’re smart and make a fun movie. But the whole 1 person that is a fucking the expert in literally everything that happens is just getting old.
I feel like your calling out Project Hail Mary. Is this what you are referring to?
Yeah. That was the last movie I saw like this. Keep in mind, I love the book and movie. But watching the movie, I keep going “oh come on” how does he know how to program a translator in excel. Still a great movie.
Rocky, the alien, was doing the vast majority of the work in their communication - being careful to only use words already in the list recognised by the laptop, except when absolutely necessary to introduce a new word, and also saying the words in an order suitable for English grammar. The laptop was only doing single-word speech synthesis from Rocky’s sounds, a fairly simple task.
In Excel? In space? How did his M365 account not expire? Or connect back to MS to validate when he opened it up next time?
