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          If you ever want to tense up a boomer, pronounce DOS like “dose” instead of “daws”. Works every time. Also tell them its a spanish/mexican word that the operating system was jokingly named after.

          Its a power move at thanksgiving to derail the uncles if trump comes up. If they want to talk nonsense and bullshit, then we all can too.

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            Was just commenting on the technical details. I only use proprietary software when paid to do so. On Linux for 25 years.

            Dang, I also play proprietary games :(

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    “We need the second amendment to fight kings and dictators! So we need to accept school shootings!”

    Ok, you now have a dictator who took over the US. He is manipulating the voting system. He is dismantling the democratic government.

    “Vote ☺️”

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    Community rule 3 made me LOL: no liberalism, because “liberalism is in direct conflict with the left.” I don’t understand the difference between lliberal, progressive and left enough to predict when any opinion I express here would be bannable. But based on the rest of the rules it seems like a hardcore echo chamber, so buh-bye.

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    Also, America when riot.

    “This is the socialist, communist antisocial fuckwads destroying public property”

    This kind of generalisation DIDN’T use to happen in Europe. But this time, the trumpism has spread.

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        Riots are fine when it’s damaging government property or large businesses, but I don’t see how it’s helpful to society when small businesses are getting their shops smashed and looted. No doubt this is done by a small number of bad actors taking advantage of the situation, but it feels like it takes away from the message of the protests.

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          “The message of the protests”

          Jesus fucking Christ. You think the problem right now is … messaging? Like, some people just need to be talked to in the right way? You haven’t met them where they are, is that it?

          Rage and get defensive all you like, but people like you are not only part of the US’s problem, you might, in fact, be the BIGGEST part of the problem.

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            I mean, surely a protest needs a cause? And the ones in France started in regards to the failings in the school system, which is a totally valid reason. The situation eventually led to rioting, no doubt partially because of the heavy-handed response from the French police. My point is that it’s unfortunate when the riots devolve into looting of small businesses that were never the target of the initial protests; it takes away from what the protestors were trying to say. I’m not saying not to riot, I’m saying target government property.

            It sounds like you’ve taken my post to be referring to the US, but I was specifically referring the news I’ve seen coming out of France. “people like you are not only part of the US’s problem”. My friend, I’m not American. The situation over there is different yes, and the democrats message in the post is pathetic. People in the US should indeed be rioting.

            My main point here is that they need to be coordinating and targeting the institutions that matter.

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              The “cause” is “you will submit, and you will be grateful that this brick is going through your window instead of your skull.”

              Unless, you know, you like having fascists around.

              If the small business owners are not in the streets with you, they are part of the problem and their businesses are legitimate targets.

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                Do you not feel that a protest or riot should have a set cause and demands?

                If the small business owners are not in the streets with you, they are part of the problem and their businesses are legitimate targets.

                Fine in theory, but difficult in practice. I’m sure there were plenty of such people in the French protests, but no sign saying ‘please don’t attack my business, I’m with you’ would have made any difference. The targets have been somewhat indiscriminate. What I’d like to see is a coordinated effort to riot, but I’ll concede that this is perhaps an impossible ask. Maybe we just have to accept that there will be collateral damage in these situations, but ultimately it’s worth the cost?

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    Unfortunately, pedophiles (“misopede”) of the bourgeoisie are well defended in France too. Brigitte Macron, Polanski, Depardieu, … It need big mobilization to trial to be made, and even more for the crime to be acknowledge. Their is still no trial for Epstein accomplices

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    The only two rights that Americans have ever cared enough about to die for:

    The right to own black people like pets.
    The right to be owned by Israelis like pets.

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        Every accusation is a confession.

        Ukrainians are the slaves, neofeudal serfs to their blackrock lords.

        All opposition parties are banned.

        All opposition media has been seized by the state.

        They can’t vote.

        Men can’t even leave to escape being kidnapped off the street ICE style. They’re dressing like old women in public. They’re drowning in rivers trying to escape this death cult. Just an impossible VICTORY OR an inevitable DEATH?

        https://busification.org/en

        Their grandchildren’s grandchildren will still be paying off generational debt from predatory military and IMF loans.

        And for what? Same reason America always goes to war…

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          Nyet comdradski you Ruskis are the ones who do be sucking da Trump balls big time

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            Go to Slava Intel on Telegram. It’s the height of Russian Z rhetoric. They hate Trump just as much as you or I do.

            This rhetoric has no basis in reality, and is designed only for the consumption of ill informed American liberals.

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    There is no peaceful solution to an infestation of conservatives. Absolutely vote, but then understand it will not be enough to stop stage-4 conservatism. The right has no intention of leaving two-dozen brand new jumbo concentration camps unused.

    Conservatives are not going to suddenly change their minds and decide to be peaceful. They will need to be stopped by force, locally within our neighborhoods and likely without mass organizing. Be ready to act alone. Be merciless. Be prolific.

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      Absolutely vote? Wasn’t it the democrats who originally started using those concentration camps? Why the hell should we keep supporting liberals as an obligation, this kind of stuff is why you’ll never move left of the Democratic Party.

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        No. These concentration camps are brand new and have never been used. There are over two dozen of them. The conservatives hope to begin enforcing NSPM-7 guidance after midterms, arresting innocent citizens and vulnerable classes as terrorists.

        These “detainees” will not receive any due process and can be held indefinitely without being charged with a crime, per the Patriot Act. So, it’s just typical conservative fascism. Conservatives are cartoonishly, profoundly evil and need to be dealt with.

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          I remember people being deported all the time under liberal administrations technically legally, and you were all silent about it. What’s happening now is the natural extrapolation of where that was heading.

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            Nothing was done illegally or unconstitutionally before this and to suggest otherwise just shows that you are a troll or one the nazis

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              I don’t give a shit if ICE was brutalizing people legally or if ICE was brutalizing people illegally and breaking the constitution of your slave state imperialist country.

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                Can you show me where they were eprevously “brutalizing” people?

                I think the biggest science was the cages that were still in use at the border.

                Can you show me murders, shootings, neighborhood sweeps, CCOT transfers or people being trafficked to countries they have never been to?

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                “according the the Republican supreme Court” Means nothing

                It doesn’t change the law or the constitution, what they are doing is against it, it’s not debatable

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              Nothing was done illegally or unconstitutionally before this

              Biden funding and supporting genocide was clearly and obviously a violation of the Leahy laws. Thats not really up for debate.

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                  I’m sure I can talk about two issues in separate comment threads. I think everyone is sure of that. Are you sure you understand how to converse in english comrade? Or are you wasting my and everyone else’s time with meaningless callouts?

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            Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation.

            Under all previous administrations, we followed a process that respected the immigration court system. Today, ERO tackles documented legal residents in the immigration court hallways while they wait for scheduled check-in hearings.

            Conservatives are pathological liars. Never trust a conservative. They are truly, deeply evil. Every. Single. One.

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            Yes and, it’s also gotten worse. You and the person you’re replying to are both right. Liberals have been deporting people too, and also, there really are a bunch of new concentration camps, because the conservatives want to deport even more people. You’re both right!

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              No, because one of these people is seemingly totally alright with just settling with a more acceptable number of people being deported if it follows the correct legal process. Both parties should be fucking overthrown. There is no acceptable amount of continuous death and brutality.

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                I think we should have all but completely open borders. The only reason I see to have border controls to control the flow of potentially invasive plants and animals, to prevent the import of food, etc that doesn’t meet domestic safety guidelines, basic demographic and census tracking, and to make sure that anyone coming in knows their rights and isn’t being abused.

                more acceptable number of people being deported if it follows the correct legal process

                This is a very confusing statement to me. What do you think deportation is?
                I’m not sure how you can be particularly upset that someone is okay with people being sent home after getting a proper trial and legal due process, particularly when the alternative is “not that”.

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            You started at “Democrats were using these camps”, and now you’re at “the Democrats did something that can be interpreted as a precursor to what’s happening now”.

            You’re wildly shifting the goalposts to keep Democrats central to your ire, while also saying that something is just as bad as something that is an escalation of it.
            A preceding B does not make A equivalent to B.

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              The camps existed on a (slightly) smaller scale under Biden, but the escalating brutality has remained relatively constant across Democrats and Republicans, it’s just that the Republicans came later.

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                You are lying. I personally visited immigration detention facilities under Biden. They were humane. Not pleasant, but not overt torture. And unless a detainee was being held pending federal charges, they were only kept for a few days to a week (or two weeks max if there was some complication). Everyone received their meds and was able to communicate with their family. Also, the immigration court system was respected under Biden. None of those things are true under the conservative fascist government.

                All conservatives are pathological liars and should never be trusted. Conservatives are fascists and need to be dealt with.

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        Of the choices the Democrats are most likely to stop the concentration camps so of my three options (vote Dem, vote Repub, do nothing and/or vote third party) I’ll do the one that is most likely to effect the change I want

        Let’s look at a historical analogue. In the past Democrats were anti-gay marriage. I think Clinton only came around on it in like 2012 and Obama in like 2008 or something like that, who knows. But recently in the grand scheme of things. Can you imagine in like 2006 being like “well the Democrats and Republicans both don’t support the gay community so I guess I’ll just not vote”? But the Dems were the most likely to eventually come around, and enough people pushed them in that direction that they did the right thing. That’s how politics works

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    Well he’s right. As an American I don’t worry about a civil war or citizen revolt here. Present-day Americans can yell at their televisions and post badass tirades online, but they couldn’t revolt their way out of a Walmart. It’s far too inconvenient. Even after the Jan 6 idiots forced their way into the Capitol building, what did they do - committed minor vandalism and took selfies.

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      Same here.

      Plus I think it’s important to point out for folks outside the US that even though this place looks like a spiraling shit hole from the outside (and rightly so) that for tons of people living here life is completely normal and pleasant. Living in such a fortunate/privileged position you have to put effort into paying attention and giving a shit in order to see that the emperor has no clothes.

      The American Way is for most of us to have things pretty good at the price of a horrifyingly large minority of us suffering for it. Plus of course all the people in other countries that our government has fucked with or killed.

      This place always has had the reputation of being the richest country in the world, yet unable or unwilling to guarantee healthcare or a thousand other things. Our outward appearance may be dumpster fire, but our bank account still has a lot of zeros. People are too comfortable to force change.

      Now, if the midterm elections are a horror show that gets people killed and it kicks off the AI stock market meltdown, it could probably change quickly. I just don’t expect it to change quickly.

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      In a real insurrection I wouldnt be at all surprised to see citizens lining up to protect costcos with their lives. Walmarts, I’m not so sure would gat the same treatment. No shade intended on costco. I love costco. Walmart can go fuck itself.

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    Americans watching rioters backed by Russia loot stores 6 months before elections, making it more likely that far-right will win: so jealous!