I don’t know if 2010 is allowed, but Get Him To The Greek would probably have to be up there. Russell Brand and P. Diddy together on screen at last!
Not a film per se but I nominate How I Met Your Mother. Barney is a funny and great guy, but he’s also a misogynist and a creep
Ted’s a bigger creep. I hadn’t noticed until I heard a woman say it. Thought about it and she was right.
At least Barney is self-aware of the fact that he’s a creep. Ted thinks he’s a nice guy
Austin Powers.
It was hilarious back then but now, I can’t help but cringe through almost every scene.
The Dr Evil/ Scott relationship stands the test of time.
One of my favorite teen movies was 16 Candles, which I loved as a kid, and looked forward to showing my son, when he got old enough.
The day came, and he watched it without cracking a smile. When it ended, he asked, “What did you think was funny? The underage binge drinking, the wanton destruction of a beautiful house, the Asian racism, or maybe it was the statutory rape? What exactly is funny about this movie?”
He ruins everything.
Wait, you mean to tell me that 16 Candles was supposed to be a comedy!?
Teenage me absolutely did not pick up on that tidbit when I saw it in the early 2000s. I just saw it as yet another crappy romance film from the 80s. I was so bored that I can’t actually recall a single memorable scene from the film.
Hate to break it to you, dude, but the movie was very much a product of its time. Anyone younger than Gen X isn’t going to “get” the film. As a Millennial, I surely don’t.
Anthony Michael Hall’s character of The Geek was a comedy acting masterpiece. Easily the funniest teen character among ALL the great 80s New Wave Teen Comedies.
It was John Hughes’ first film, and it was a sloppy mess, but it was also an interesting concept because it flipped a lot of the standard teen movie tropes. The Main Girl was sweet and smart. Her parents weren’t idiots, they were overwhelmed by circumstances, but they were good people who loved their kids. The Big Athlete turned out to be a sweet guy who genuinely liked the Main Girl. And The Geek turned to be the coolest of them all.
I guess I’ve only seen that movie once and it was about 30 or 40 years ago, I don’t remember a beautiful house being destroyed? I don’t remember any statutory rape? I guess it was just considered a normal sex scene back then? Either way I don’t remember that part either.
It was trashed during the party I think
The other day I wanted to watch a fun animated movie, and found that I’d never seen a Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles movie that came out in 2007. Downloaded, put it on… and immediately greeted by the weinstien logo… then they had not one but TWO different Asian actors doing lines in the “broken Chinese accent.” Kinda ruined the whole movie for me.
Eurotrip - the whole dvd.
I clicked through rewatching some of it and it’s generically raunchy, like it was trying to outcompete the American Pie movie for sex references and topless women.
Edit: It can be very depressing in winter.
here’s a fun fact - unlike most films of the time, it doesn’t celebrate sexual assault as acceptable!
It also is surprisingly not bi-phobic - both Fiona’s MMF threesome and Jenny’s European crush’s bisexuality are not treated as aberrations against nature, etc.
“Stay Black Bert” is a problem though.
Mi scussi guy, everybody at the beach, the hooligans, and literally the entirety of Cooper’s character seems like a way bigger deal than stay black bert lmao.
I rewatched not long ago and would argue it remains one of the best raunchy teen comedies, not like that’s a high bar but I was still laughing through it.
I mean, the guys at the beach are being mocked for being perverts who women correctly avoid.
The hooligans . . . . I agree it’s not good to let people think being English is acceptable, but they are taking the piss out of Italians, so it’s a hard call . . .
Bruh what…you complain about “stay black bert” then make that joke.
Yeah, call me when American Eyeties are being incarcerated and killed by police at numbers far outside anywhere near representative to their population percentage.
Then you double down by dropping an actual fucking slur while completely forgetting the actual history of Italians in America. Fuck off, racist piece of shit.
It is an interesting question. Most comedy ages poorly, often not because it’s bad, but because the jokes are built on common assumptions of the era, and some of those are kinda shit.
George Carlin
Well, I guess you did say most
Main exception being physical comedy. Some of those old silent films are hilarious, and just as funny now as when they came out 😂
Not having a language barrier, or anchor for that matter, makes a significant difference.
Like Mr Bean. I think the gags about cutting through photos of the royal family only get funnier with age.
Anything with Adam Sandler
We’re just gonna pretend Wedding Singer isn’t a classic huh?
Big Daddy and Waterboy still hold up too. Everything else though…
If by “Big Daddy” you mean Happy Gilmore, I agree.
Big Daddy is one of his films that holds up the least to modern scrutiny, next to Little Nicky.
The only watchable Sandler movies are Uncut Gems, Hustle, and that one with the spider in space.
+Punch Drunk Love (just an actor)
I can’t tell if they aged poorly because I also hated them when they first came out.
Hey Happy Gilmore is still decent I think. Pretty sure I watched that in the last few years. Maybe big daddy too I haven’t watched that in a minute tho.
Everything else by Sandler, yeah you’re dead right
Punch Drunk Love is good because he had no hand in it other than acting.
Even Punch-Drunk Love?
That’s not really a comedy. Adam Sandler is really good when he’s doing more serious movies. When he’s doing Adam Sandler movies, they’re awful.
Yes, turns out the Adam Sandler movies get him and his friends a nice vacation to e.g Hawaii or some South African resort AND a paycheck to go along with it. When you realize that, you kinda understand why he’s producing that slop rather than genuinely good films. The slop is consistent, it’ll basically always do well enough to justify the cost.
Shallow Hal is a pretty good contender
Isn’t the ultimate message of the movie wholesome though? I’ve never actually seen it.
The basic message is supposed to be but loses intent because of the fact it’s all fat jokes
Having forgotten pretty much everything about Ace Ventura: Pet Detective I tried to watch it with my nephews and immediately had to turn it off lol
That was 1994 (question is about the 2000s)
Are you gonna go back & correct the people who named 80’s movies too?
Yeah, this did not age wellwhere the bad guy is intra conversion trans.
Not a good look now.,
Pet Detective aged like milk. When Nature Calls is still classic.
It’s in the bone!
There’s a reason that the sequel got replayed on tv more then the original. At least, I remember being replayed.
It’s dumb slapstick comedy, then and now. OP’s tastes changed.
Three darts is too much…
And now… A YAK! YaaaaaAAAK. YAAAaaaaAAK. YAAK!
It was shit when it came out
There is no competition: Idiocracy, because it isn’t funny anymore when you are in it yourself.
When I first saw it, it was a comedy. Now it’s a horror movie.
It was funny when it wasn’t real.
I’d rather be in Idiocracy.
at least President Camacho knew they were doomed and was trying to fix it. Dickhead Trump is trying to speed-run our demise.
It’s also pro eugenicist anti-poor nonsense.
The opening scene has no mention of genetics. Just that stupid people raise stupid children. Yes, in real life, a child can break free of bad parentage, but it’s rare and outside the scope of an 84 minute movie. In real life, the stupid people would be way, way more mean spirited, but that would make for a bad comedy.
I tried watching it after hearing about it here a few times… I was shocked at how it’s basically just a comedy for rich white conservatives. If anything its message is supportive of fascism; the whole premise is that poor people are stupid and rich people are smart, and humanity 500 years in the future has gotten stupider because the rich people failed to control the poors and got “great replaced” by stupid poor people…
why anyone on Lemmy thinks it’s good is beyond me
Though it showed the people who were not having kids, as middle class, and it showed the people having kids, as poor, it wasn’t a point in the story that the rich got replaced, only the smart people.
Wealth was never a point or even a subtle representation in the movie. It was certainly a movie written by a rich white man though, and can definitely be critiqued as having those biases.
Judge has shown time and again that he is very against institutional controls and concentrated power in general. All the “pro fascism” stuff you’re taking about are your own ideas for “solutions” to the problem Idiocracy poses.
The thing is, the movie itself is fine. It is self contained satire that never tries to pass itself off as more than an absurd joke. It’s that everyone is citing it as prophetic or relevant that’s the issue. Ironically, the people that can only process real events through their favorite fiction aren’t nearly as smart as they think they are.
XKCD 603 has never been more relevant than this
It’s a fair criticism but imo it’s not too hard to write off that bit of absurd narrated exposition at the beginning and instead think of it as being about anti-intellectualism and broken institutions, since the rest of the movie seems like more of a satire of those things, and the plot doesn’t really land on eugenics as a solution to its problems.
Mike Judge made a statement about it in an interview:
We live in polarized times, which means that for every ‘Idiocracy is a documentary!’ take that goes around, there’s also a critique that argues that Idiocracy is a celebration of eugenics. Have you thought about that interpretation of it?
Well, yeah. I mean I’ve actually read that a couple of times. But to me, I thought the opening made it very clear that whatever side you take, nature and nurture are both covered in that. That guy is clearly not a good father. I mean, there’s a kid with a motorcycle in the front yard, and no one’s paying attention to this. He’s just irresponsibly knocking up different woman, and proud of it. It’s not like he’s a good, upstanding role model for the kid. So I think it’s pretty clear here that, whichever one it is, [nature or nurture], there’s some combination of both. I obviously don’t believe in eugenics. I think you could look at it both ways—you have this couple that’s trying to be so responsible that they end up never having kids. Then there’s another couple who just irresponsibly keeps having them and not raising them right. So, you know, if the other couple adopted the other kids. I’m sure they would probably be better off.
Yeah the eugenics take always seemed a weird one. No implications that the family reproducing like rabbits shouldn’t have any children, just that maybe it would be good if they had a reasonable amount of kids responsibly. Also the couple that never had kids despite wanting kids shouldn’t have been so cautious as to miss out.
I nominate “Dude, Where’s My Car?”.
I thought this was screamingly funny when it came out. It was the movie everyone quoted until “Napoleon Dynamite” came out. I tried rewatching it maybe a year or two ago and it’s aged like milk. Too much of the comedy relies on unhealthy stereotypes & tropes.
Blazing Saddles? For the time,it was genius…is the blatant racism still funny… I would say yes because Mel brooks forces you to evaluate it and then laugh or don’t laugh.
Famous 2000’s movie, Blazing Saddles.
The black sheriff isn’t the butt of the jokes, the dumb fuck racists are. However, there are some gay jokes toward the end, but they aren’t too mean.
One of the most legitimate uses of the n-word in media is to make racist idiots look even worse. And the people of the land scene is pure gold.
What the movie is REALLY about is, there’s two groups of racists: There’s the elites, the governor and cronies, whose racism is borne mainly from greed and thus insaitable and incurable, and then there’s the townsfolk whose racism is borne of xenophobia and easily cured by understanding. World War 2 veteran Mel Brooks’ intended solution to the problem of racism is to understand that xenophobia is just human nature and that those people are best reached out to with civility and good intentions to get through to them on their level, and the way you deal with the folks who are intentionally enforcing systematic racism is to shoot them in the dick in the real modern-day street because nothing else will ever work.
“The Right” is content to laugh at the racism because that’s the part they like and they mentally check out somewhere around “throw out your hands, stick out your tush” and “The Left” would try to cancel Mel Brooks because “You can’t have white people in a movie saying the N word. That’s racist.” They’re over here trying to boycott Lucas Pope because a game he made 13 years ago has a “strip search to confirm gender” mechanic. The point Pope is trying to make is that brutal dictatorships sure are dehumanizing, but no, brains turn off at “I think that’s anti-trans.”
The problem I fear is that the number of people who are willing and able to ask “What’s this movie actually saying, overall?” is dwindling.
They’re over here trying to boycott Lucas Pope
Who is “they” and do you have a source about this?
I give to you: “They”
So, when you say “the left” is trying to boycott Lucas Pope over something that happened 13 years ago, what you actually mean is that one Tumblr account, which went inactive 10 years ago, once asked people not to buy his game. When you say that “brains turn off,” you really mean more like one specific brain turned off.
At some point, we, as a society, need to come to terms with the fact that you can always find some stupid person saying some stupid thing if you look hard enough, and that that isn’t representative of a larger movement.
Yeah. People act like this. It’s one example of a broader trend of consuming media at a surface level and immediately discarding anything “problematic” because simply hearing certain words or discussion of certain topics at all makes them uncomfortable. In this very thread you have people calling Idiocracy “pro-eugenics” because it made its point that low-brow culture that actually values stupidity and ignorance seems to be growing at an alarming rate in the context of a family tree. Obviously that means the creator thinks only smart people should be allowed to breed.
Everything Rob Schieder started in.
None were very well liked even when they were fresh, but things like “Big Stan”, in which his pipsqueak convict character has to go on a karate-kid-style journey to learn martial arts from David Carrodine in order to fend off rapists before he heads off to prison is kind of a case study in a whole genre that could be called ‘damn, you really thought that was funny?’
Norm MacDonald and some of the other SNL folks dabbled in some of the same jokes, but were much more talented, so some of this stuff feels a little forgivable. Schneider though… oof.
Also: I haven’t seen it, but I’m going to guess that 2008’s “You Don’t Mess with the Zohan” – in which Adam Sandler stars as an Israeli Mossad super ninja who wants to be a stylist – probably didn’t age great.
Don’t mess with Zohan is conceptually wild now. Damn.
