“But you’ll ruin that young man’s life if you report him…”
Good.
Why should the guy that got away with rape be the same guy to decide what’s fair.
I was reading a story on ‘why are fraternities even still allowed’ and it brought up that every judge talked to about the Stanford case had geek letters on their office from their fraternity, then I remember this legal advice I got once, it went like this 'wait till your trial is appointed a judge, find out what fraternity said judge was in, then look for a lawyer who was also in that fraternity. ’ apparently it’s VERY effective. So yeah… it’s actually really crazy.
I hate that I feel like I should remember this advice.
I’ve heard it works a lot better than silly things like innocence, honesty, integrity, and all THAT horse shit.
That’s put perfectly thanks
Why are people screenshot other social media and post it to social media? What’s next you record your doom scrolling and put it on YouTube?
“You will ruin that rapist’s life!”
No, he ruined his own life.
I’m all in to ruin convicted rapist that already proven with all required evidence in court regardless of age,race or gender.
It is different from ruining innocent fate of promising youth on baseless accuse.
This is about encouraging victims to come forward. Sexual assault and rape have very low reporting numbers.
You know, the comments on this thread are a real eye opener.
It’s a simple statement - it’s ok to ruin the life of a rapist.
A lot of questions about false accusations are coming up - they’re good questions, but the folks you’re trying to get to engage are… not the most capable of engaging judging by the evidence this thread suggests.
Oh no you’ll ruin that person’s life if you report his murders!
I think the point being missed here is that someone’s whole life can get ruined even if they’re innocent.
That is not the point of the post.
Unfortunately here in Britain we had a big run of trials that collapsed when it was revealed the accusations were false, nevertheless irrevocably ruining the defendants’ reputations. This sort of prosecutorial incompetence serves to muddy the waters and lead genuine victims to doubt themselves, and well-meaning confidants ro err on the side of what they consider to be caution.
Ideally, a performant justice system and use of blanket media reporting restrictions to protect defendants until conviction would allow such determinations as “ruining someone’s life” to the prosecutors and the jury and save personal anguish on the part of the complainant.
This reeks of low effort misogynist propaganda.
jokes on you, he could still do it after conviction. does anyone honestly think maga would care? its all but proven at this point for not only the president and they eat it up.
They’ll most likely taste Hell regardless, but at least in confinement with other men 1) they won’t be raping women whilst inside; 2) they’ll have the time to reflect on their actions and maybe repent, make a complete change and never do it again. Like, it’s possible, and solitude in particular is great for this kind of mental and spiritual growth.
Solitude is being by yourself by **choice **for peace and restoration, whereas loneliness is an unfulfilled biological need for connection. Solitary confinement is a form of imprisonment where an incarcerated person is isolated in a single cell for 22 to 24 hours a day with little or no meaningful human contact. In confinement is not a choice.
I never said it was a choice, evidently they lost their freedom for being very real dangers to society (and because ostracizing these folks is no longer in fashion, I guess). I said they can use that moment to reflect, make the best of it and all. And whilst you’re right, solitude in jail is rare, they’d still have fewer distractions whilst incarcerated which would in turn allow for moments of reflection, right? I assume being bored/underestimulated is just the default in prison, and that tells me there’s a lot of time they could spend in deep thought… but do correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t have any experience and very little knowledge regarding prison.
Strong Brock Allen Turner vibes in the first half.
“Won’t someone PLEASE think of the rapists?” is the weirdest and most repulsive defense I’ve ever heard, even if it’s always couched as an innocent little manchild who made a teensy little mistake that totally wasn’t his fault anyway.
It’s more like, won’t someone please think of the innocent people whose lives are permanently ruined because of slander? That’s why we have a legal system, and everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
You can’t have a certain category of crime for which all accusations are be taken at face value and truthful by default.
Do you feel bad not being labeled a rape apologist? It’s an easy fix.
Fucking LISTEN to women saying they were raped. The stats about the numbers who are assaulted versus those willing to be crucified by the court of public opinion or our legal system are utterly horrifying.
This shouldn’t have to be said, but some of you are too fucking dense to figure it out.
Agreed, except that is not what is being argued for here.
You can’t have a certain category of crime for which all accusations are be taken at face value and truthful by default.
Point of order - that is not what is being advocated for here.
No one said “Let’s ruin people’s lives based on taking an accusation without any proof”
They said “Consequences for rapists” and somehow that jumped to “there’s no way to prove rape happened” like it is a crime that leaves behind no physical evidence or corroborated accounts of repeat patterns from multiple often unrelated victims who have no knowledge of each other.
Since when has a rape conviction stopped either of those things?
He already ruined his own life by ruining those of others. It’s not wrong for him to face consequences for that. That these @ssholes are more concerned about his life is ridiculous.
Also, maybe he can put on his big boy pants, accept responsibility, accept that there’re many, many things he’s disqualified himself for in this life, and take the consequences as just. Do his time. Accept exile from whole sections of the community if he gets out. He’ll never be able to give back what he destroyed, but he can spend his life trying his best to make up for it as humbly as possible though he will fail. That’s the only moral path open to him.
So weird that people want to use this logic for SA, but not for stuff like non-violent drug offenses.
Did I misunderstand your comment, or are you trying to argue that recreational drug use is as bad as being a rapist? I dunno about you, but I much rather have a drug user in office than a sex offender.
I think they meant the top part–“not wanting to ruin someone’s life” should apply to non-harmful acts, but in some people’s minds rape isn’t “as” harmful as having your life ruined or something…
Yeah that’s what I meant.
Good. Those type of disgusting things who don’t deserve to call themselves men will grow up to become disgusting things like pedo-protecting republikkkans.
